Thursday, December 01, 2011

First look: 2013 Fleetwood Excursion

2013 Fleetwood Excursion at the 2011 RVIA Show in Louisville, KY

The 2012 uh... make that 2013 Fleetwood Excursion is an interesting motorhome that Fleetwood introduced at the 49th Annual RVIA show in Louisville Kentucky this past week.  This Class A motorhome will be released to the public in March of 2012, but Fleetwood has decided to call it a 2013 model year RV.

This unit is a great example of some of the innovation that Fleetwood is bringing to the RV industry.  It also gives us a glimpse of how Fleetwood intends to rebound from the tough times of the previous years.  The 2013 Excursion is an example of what happens when a large manufacturer combines the desire for innovation with the ability to listen to their users.

The first thing that strikes you about the Excursion is that it's really not all that tall.  Fleetwood claims that it's 11'10" driving height will allow it to be driven into a garage with a 12 foot door.  Once inside, releasing the air in the suspension will allow it to have an overall height of just 11'7".  That's not very tall for a modern day class A motorhome.  Despite the limited exterior height, the interior will still boast a full 7 feet of interior height.  So something has to give, right?  If you're anything like me, you're assuming that the basement of this unit must be either extremely small, or possibly non-existent.  Well, that's not the case either.

How did Fleetwood accomplish this?

Fleetwood paired up with Freightliner Custom Chassis to rethink the traditional RV chassis.  The two companies worked together to address all kinds of issues with the typical class A chassis.  There are a lot of technical details which we'll write about later, but for practical purposes, Fleetwood is claiming a stronger, straighter, smoother riding chassis that allows you to have an impressive amount of storage space.  A close look at the Excursion tells us that they're not kidding, and when we write a technical article on this chassis, you'll see how it all comes together.

Fleetwood is claiming that the lower exterior height is in response to their customers telling them that they'd like to be able to store their units in garages with 12 foot doors, but we're seeing another practical benefit to a lower exterior height.  Increased fuel economy.  With less frontal area to push through the wind, this unit should be fairly efficient out on the open road.

Efficiency speaks to the overall value of the coach, and we see the Excursion as a well rounded value.  The interior is very high quality, and comfortable.  In Fleetwood's marketing material they are claiming that "Every Fleetwood RV has a motor, but it's the special touches that make it a home."  We have to admit that in the case of the Excursion, that marketing statement lives up to the hype.  From the attractive colours of the interior to the countertops and backsplash that would fit in if they were in a downtown condo, right to the drop down 40" Sony BluRay LCD HDTV.  Like many RV's these days, this unit has features that are probably nicer than many of the homes of their owners.

At launch, the Excursion will only be available with one floor plan, but it's a floor plan that we like quite a bit.  With a large L shaped couch and a table system that Fleetwood calls it's "Conver-Table" the living area eliminates the traditional, and less comfortable dinette, but still provides all the practicality.  The optional drop down, nearly queen size bunk means that this unit will work great for a family, or allow the grandparents to comfortably take along their children and grandchildren.

Little floor plan details that we noticed include a rear Queen bed that is not centred in the coach, but placed slightly to the driver's side.  This allows for a better wardrobe area beside the headboard, but also eliminates the compromise that a centre bed provides.  Instead of having too small of an area on either side of the bed, you have a comfortable place to walk, and get changed on the right side of the bedroom, while the left side is enough to get in or out of bed, with no wasted space.

The unit is powered by a Cummins 6.7 litre rear diesel engine mated to an Allison 6 Speed transmission.  Overall power is just 250 horsepower, but a strong 660 lb-ft of torque at a low 1600rpm should provide plenty of power for a coach of this size.  Keeping in mind this is a very short diesel pusher, most users will be perfectly happy with this engine.  A towing capacity of 10,000 pounds means that owners won't have to make any sacrifices when it comes to bringing along a tow vehicle, or other trailer.

Overall, we think Fleetwood has a great unit in their Excursion, with a starting price at just under $180,000 this is going to be a tough unit to beat.

Click here to see Fleetwood's home page for the Excursion with full pictures and specs.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Fleetwood Storm 33Q and Tiffin Allegro Breeze 32BR

Fleetwood Storm 33Q
Fleetwood has taken the step of combining the best features of a Class C with those of a Class A. This began last year with the re-introduction of the Storm and this year the 33Q has notched it up a step. The drop down from the roof, Hide-A-Loft Queen Bed is still there, however the 40” Hideaway LCD TV is quite unique. In this model, the TV is placed directly in front of a window beside the dinette and conveniently drops down when not being viewed to allow looking out the window. When raised into position the TV blocks the window and is perfectly placed for those sitting on the dinette to view. You can watch it from the dinette although some might find that a little close. Certainly it is another way of creating a day night shade!   The floor plan also features number of steps up and down that some may need to get used to. Otherwise there is a broom closet, lots of wardrobe storage and low entry step. Lots of wood trim make this coach seem that it is not a budget priced RV. It is packed with features and looks great.

Fleetwood Storm - Bedroom 
Fleetwood Storm - Dining Area with retractable TV

Fleetwood Storm 33Q Floorplan and features


Tiffin Allegro Breeze 32BR
Tiffin had the distinction of building the shortest Class A diesel coach however some found that length a little short for their purposes. Responding to customer feedback Tiffin is entering the 31-34 foot diesel market with a new 32BR. It features opposing slide-outs and a rear queen bedroom. The TV flips down from the ceiling in the bedroom and provides a small yet good size display giving the positioning. The coach is powered by a Navistar Max-Force Diesel engine and rides on Tiffin’s PowerGlide chassis. Space is compact, similar to the European feel we see in coaches built on the Mercedes chassis Class C chassis however this is a Class A when comfort and look is factored in. The wood faced refrigerator and beautiful wood trim makes the coach seem bigger and the wrap-around lounge dinette and floating table really open up the coach.     

Tiffin Allegro Breeze 32BR


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Newmar introduces 3D TV to RVing


Walking into a top of the line coach and seeing a LED or LCD flat screen TV is not unusual in today’s RV marketplace. However when the TV is 3D the effect is enough to have you take a second look. Even without the 3D glasses, the images have depth and a perspective that heretofore is unseen in an RV. I am not a big TV watcher and have not been to see 3D movies however the effect of seeing a 3D TV in an RV is noteworthy.  It is a quantum leap from the entertainment we enjoyed in RV’s 30 years ago. As the buyers of these RV’s are the most likely to have this technology in their homes, Newmar made the leap to placing Sony LED 3D TVs in the King Aire and Mountain Aire coaches. It is unique and I would expect the competition will walk along the same path shortly. Also noteworthy in this coach was the high gloss lacquer finish to all of the woodwork. The shine is distinctive and takes getting used to. Look for yourself and decide if the different look appeals to you.



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An "All Electric RV"


Don’t be fooled by the title, I am not referring to the industry trend to install residential refrigerators and electric smooth surface cooktops. This RV is powered exclusively by an electric motor! MVP showcased its Tahoe Class C with an electric propulsion system.  This system uses Winston Lithium high tech batteries to power an electric motor through an Allison transmission. The prototype on display is built on a Ford Class C chassis and provides about 120 miles of range before requiring a charge. Battery Charging with the fast charge station can replenish the batteries in just 20 minutes. A system designed to be installed at an RV dealer will take about 1.5 hours. Now before you say: ”Are you kidding?” this is a prototype! Quiet, emission and fuel free travel is possible.
A Class A version, initially expected to achieve about 300+ miles before charging, is in the works as well. As a Hybrid fan I found the concept unique and credible although obviously in the development phase. Who would have thought that a segment of car buyers would buy a plug-in car (the Chevy Volt) and yet GM is selling them. You now know that RV’s are following right behind. I am sure the owners of short range delivery vehicles with defined routes will look seriously at this technology as well. I wonder how long it will be before one of the RV choices will be an “all –electric coach” with LED lighting, electric cooktop, residential refrigerators, using a fuel cell technology to provide charge power for the house batteries and an all-electric, emission free power train? All of the elements were on display at the 2011 RVIA National Trade Show. All of this, just a few short years after the pundits were predicting the demise of the industry. The entrepreneurial spirit is alive and well in the RV industry.
MVP Tahoe Electric Motorhome - Under the hood 
MVP Tahoe Electric Motorhome - Electric Propulsion



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Roadmaster Eclipse Slide Out System


Roadmaster introduced a revolutionary slideout system that uses aerospace steel reinforced (toothed) drive belts to move the slide room assembly. The belts appear as a roughly 2” band near the top and bottom of the slideout box. They look like part of the graphics found on many RV slide box ends. The system requires little initial adjustment and virtually no maintenance, so it should be a win-win for the RV maker and the consumer. There is no additional slide lock, the slide can be manually moved if there is no battery power and the design channels water out of the RV. What impressed me is that it is virtually invisible and it allows taller slideout designs. It also connects the slide box to the RV at BOTH the top and the bottom greatly enhancing the integrity of the slide. Typically, slide boxes are moved in and out on tracks with the top floating or pulled in and out using cables or other mechanisms with the box floating. This creates the need for adjustments both at installation and during use. Conventional systems also require consistent maintenance to maintain the water and weather seal.
With aerodynamics becoming part of the RV design equation, this system will allow contoured walls, so curved surfaces can have slide-outs in them. It is a very simple and stable slideout system that I expect will be featured in many RV designs in the very near future. 

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American Coach 45T Heritage


This amazing coach features 450 square feet of floor space. A third of the coach is the king sized bedroom and residential feel bathroom with hand laid stone floor and a shower stall that looks like it came from a luxury home. The multiplex lighting can be controlled by your iPad, while all of the Sony TV’s are LED models. The Girard roof mounted awnings feature articulated designs that come out parallel to the ground until well past the extended slideout then angle to provide more protection and a larger shaded area. These awnings are 110V powered. Even the dash air is a dual zone system similar that which is found on many high end luxury cars. This coach exuded space, quality and ultimate luxury.

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New Diesel Chassis Supplier

One of the items revealed at the Fleetwood introduction of their newest models was the transition away from Spartan as their diesel engine chassis supplier to FCCC. This will be a soft transition with some 2012 models being built on Spartan and others being built on Freightliner. Some of the characteristic Spartan chassis equipped features will find their way onto the FCCC vehicles. One that is familiar to the American Coach owner is the central servicing bay. 

Related: Fleetwood's PowerBridge II Chassis
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